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[dreamer_easy]

Weight Watchers is upset that people are starting to think fatness is normal and acceptable and that women are giving up on dieting. My question is: what's WW's long-term success rate? ETA: after five years, about 16%, at best.

In the meantime, the AMA is pushing for stomach stapling for thousands of teens as young as fourteen. I am suspicious.

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[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

Well, uh, for what it's forth, WW is where I got my eating disorder.

[murasaki-1966.livejournal.com]

It where my mother got her eating disorder.


Love your icon.

[acelightning.livejournal.com]

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

THE FUCKERS WILL RUE THE DAY

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

It's possible there are teens so severely obese, for whom no other solution has worked, who could benefit from such a serious intervention. It's hard to believe there are thousands of them, though, and neither that news item nor the AMA site seem to be talking about teens with such a serious health problem that the risks and side effects of the surgery are outweighed (as 'twere) by the benefits.

Shapely Prose

[wantsacracker.livejournal.com]

http://kateharding.net/

If you haven't discovered Kate Harding yet.

Re: Shapely Prose

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

Ooh! Ta!

[dameruth.livejournal.com]

Jeez. That seems pretty drastic, especially for kids so young. I've got a friend who underwent gastric bypass (for good medical reasons), and while she *has* lost loads of weight (100+ lbs) and seen lots of benefits (among other things, her knees aren't always on the verge of giving out now), her recovery and post-op issues also make it pretty clear that this *isn't* the sort of thing one should do unless it's a last resort.

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

Same here - a mate was helped by one of those procedures, but he'd already been through hell.

[antikythera.livejournal.com]

Option A: teach teenagers healthy eating habits. Option B: give them major life-altering surgery whose long-term success requires that they follow specific patterns of eating. Hmm, which is more practical?

I wonder if the AMA is just forgetting that second part of option B.

[hnpcc]

Did you see the article this morning on what kids eat for breakfast? I have to admit, I was initially shocked - and then remembered just how many teenagers and younger kids I've seen having breakfast at Maccas over the years.

For what it's worth, my own experience with WW has been mostly positive (the negatives are predominantly down to me being slightly irritated by the trainer - a personality thing, it's her voice). Having said that, I've lost bugger all weight, but again, that's because I don't get off my arse and do it.

The stomach stapling I'm in two minds about - I can see that it could be advantageous for a small subset, but I do worry about the medicalisation of weight loss overall for the rest of us.

Re: Shapely Prose

[wantsacracker.livejournal.com]

Don't let the current um.. level of zing faze you. It's not always like that. In the archives there are some great articles. I also like Junk Food Science.
http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/

[acelightning.livejournal.com]

[ravenevermore.livejournal.com]

Ditto on the weightwatchers in both cases (Mostly positive, lost bugger all weight through own fault and comfort eating caused by job stress... or not eating at all which sends body into starvation mode... caused by job stress. Most of my problems in life are a result of job stress). When I first started I did lose nearly 16lbs, and changed the way I eat ( - junk food, + healthy food). However then I moved jobs, moved across the country... And the motivation got lost.
My main view on it is... I don't want to be rake thin. I do, however want to be comfortable in my own skin. And thats down to me not down to some mediatastic pressures. A lot of the good and the bad in WW appears to come down to regions (as apparently the UK is run a bit differently from the US, I don't know for other areas of the world...) and the person you have leading a meeting. I'm currently going it alone, sans meeting therefore the only person I have to blame is myself.

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

"Now, remember, if anyone tells you you look healthy, and don't need to lose weight? They're trying to sabotage you. They're just jealous you're getting so much in shape. DON'T LISTEN TO THEM."

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB STAB

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

Sorryyyyyy!

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

THEY'LL BE SORRY WHEN I FINISH STABBING THEM

OR NOT

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

It's a debateable outcome!