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dreamer_easy ([personal profile] dreamer_easy) wrote2006-04-28 06:55 pm
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Chav-tastic

Oh, now I get what the hell a "chav" is. They're the young people in Britain you're supposed to be afraid of and allowed to sneer at. It was a reference to "the national sport of chav-baiting" in a news item that tipped me off. The Australian equivalent at the mo would be young Lebanese-Australian men.

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2006-04-28 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it's not just you. Actually, it was pretty funny watching fandom debate whether Rose was a "chav" after New Earth, apparently blithely unaware that the Lady Cassandra is a stuck-up snob.

I dunno whether showing one of these council estate places and its inhabitants as fairly safe and normal is subversive or patronising. I wonder if at some point RTD will retool Damaged Goods for the new show? Probably leave out the scene where the gay-bashed man stitches up his own wound with needle and thread, though.

[identity profile] saltmarsh.livejournal.com 2006-04-29 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
No, it's not just you.

Ah, fair enough.

I dunno whether showing one of these council estate places and its inhabitants as fairly safe and normal is subversive or patronising.

That's what I can't work out, either. I mean, in one way it's a positive model, and there are seven squillion children watching, so that's good, and it could be wonderfully subversive, but at the same time, there's a sort of 'look at these comedy poor people!' feel about it to me, especially with Jackie Tyler. Again, MHO. Jury's still out. It's like it's as political as the McCoy era, but angled somewhat differently. I'd be intrigued to see if Damaged Goods worked its way into the new series.

Oh on an entirely different subject, dunno if you're at all into funny little synchronicities, but in this week's Time Out (London) there's a special feature on Paris, and one of the people they've talked to about their favourite places in the city is a young African woman called Kadiatou. Tickled me, anyway.

Um, hope you don't mind if I friend you. I've been a big enough fan for long enough, I should really... :)

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2006-04-29 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
No of course not - the more the merrier!

[identity profile] saltmarsh.livejournal.com 2006-04-29 07:33 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks - done!