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dreamer_easy ([personal profile] dreamer_easy) wrote2009-01-07 09:57 am
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The new iteration of the Paterson Joseph rumour is that the Beeb deliberately leaked false information to catch whoever was passing it on to the Intersplat. I suppose that's possible, but I can't help being sceptical about how convenient it seems - it allows disgruntled fans to continue hating on the showmakers for their supposed racism, it allows the folks who started the rumour to retain some sort of credibility, and it allows everyone who uncritically swallowed the story to feel less foolish.

(I've now done a lot of searching - including misspellings of Joseph's first name! - and I haven't been able to find any mention of the rumour prior to the "Lying in the Gutters" entry of 13 October.)

[identity profile] angriest.livejournal.com 2009-01-06 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I was pretty certain the rumour started with Lying in the Gutters.

[identity profile] murasaki-1966.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
This is off the topic, but it has some great stuff about archeological discoveries in 2008

http://www.salon.com/tech/htww/?last_story=/tech/htww/2009/01/06/polynesian_chickens_in_peru/

[identity profile] jblum.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
How on Earth can a disgruntled fan find *that* racist? What, is it insensitive now to use a black guy as a red herring?

[identity profile] seangaffney.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I am totally offended that John Bennett was not cast. Racist against Chinese! And against dead people!

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, dodgy claims about BBC racism are to my mind overshadowed by the breathtaking stupid displayed by some fans at the thought of a Black Doctor. (The only good thing about which is that it drags peoples' ignorance and assumptions out into the light, where they can be challenged.)

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, yes, it would be - building up fans' hopes for the first Black Doctor, especially fen of colour's hopes.

[identity profile] jblum.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
...Nope. I still can't make the leap from "How dare you TOY WITH MY FEELINGS LIKE THAT" to any kind of racial discrimination...

[identity profile] barrington.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I bought it - it was passed to me via a variety of routes, at least a couple of them with 100% hit rates for other rumours and spoilers (Tennant's departure etc.). If this was a deliberate misinformation campaign, it worked remarkably well - and presumably it must include some people who actually work on the show, too.

I wonder if we'll ever find out...

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Yah, in DWM, in 20 years' time. :)

[identity profile] pbristow.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
God bless DWM. [HUGS SHELF-FULL OF MAGAZINES]
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[personal profile] almostwitty 2009-01-07 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
To ask a silly question, where is this Lying In The Gutters entry?

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2009-01-07 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh here - you want my previous entry on the subject. Lotsa links.
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[personal profile] almostwitty 2009-01-07 12:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks :D