The Religion Report

[dreamer_easy]

Via threerings: Pastafarianism has its first martyr! Way to go, guys!

More seriously: you should read rainbowjehan's short, moving account of Maundy Thursday.

Still on religion... there's a bit of interest in some sort of Doctor Who Pagan Witchy Mythology comm, but I don't think there's really enough for me to go ahead and litter LJ with yet another tiny, seldom-used community. (Although if anyone disagrees and wants to start one regardless, please go ahead!)

Comments

[neadods.livejournal.com]

I'd toss a pagan Who comment on the main list and see who has an opinion. Not necessarily a need for a new community.

[rainbowjehan.livejournal.com]

!

Thank you...!

[mondyboy.livejournal.com]

I've been reading your posts about the witches with interest. At first I couldn't see your point. Too me they were muppet witches. Absolute stereotypes, there to make the kids giggle and tremble and the adults roll back their eyes and sigh. Great Doctor Who monsters, totally over the top without one redeemable feature. And unlike the Bandril Amabassador, they're meant to be silly.

But then I remember how upset I got when the Wandering Jew appeared in Mike Tucker's Doctor Who PDA "The Matrix". The book isn't very good, but it's made worse by the fact that it acknowledges the existence of the cursed Jew, forced to walk the world for eternity because of what he said to Christ as he was being taken to die on the cross. In other words, a horrid symbol of anti-semitism. IIRC, no-one made a fuss of the Wandering Jew's appearance in that book. Neither did I. And if I had, I think I would have been alone.

So now I see your point. I'll be honest I still find it hard to agree with you - but I appreciate where your coming from. I still think they're great villians, and very silly, but I can also see now how they might be percieved as insulting to someone who has a certain set of beliefs.

I just needed to say that.

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

As I've mentioned in a couple of places, I'm more concerned as a woman than as a witch!

Do you know, it hadn't occurred to me before that the Wandering Jew is an anti-Semitic image - but of course it is. Perpetual, miserable unbelief. (No wonder Seventh Sign or whatever it was went with the Roman soldier version.)

[mondyboy.livejournal.com]

I should say that I'm not labelling Mike Tucker as an anti-semite. He probably wasn't aware of the iconography either, or, for that matter, Steve Cole the editor or anyone else at the BBC.

It's probably why I mostly kept my mouth shut at the time.

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

Similarly, I don't think Gareth or Russell were deliberately being misogynist; just reproducing an old bit of misogyny.

[mondyboy.livejournal.com]

And I think that's where you differ from Lawrence Miles (assuming you read his recent rant) inasmuch that he seems to believe there is a genuine level of intent involved. He argues that it might be a gay thing - which I also thought was a bit on the nose.

[alawston.livejournal.com]

Oh brilliant, is Larry off again? He's becoming as much a part of Doctor Who tradition as Christmas specials and not-quite-kisses!

[mondyboy.livejournal.com]

Yes, he went off. Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on how you look at these things) he took his posting down from his blog after 24 hours.

It wasn't as bad as his Unquiet Dead rant. Not even close. The problem with Larry is how he obscures his own arguments by mentioning that:
(a) he's a social inadequate;
(b) if you met him you probably wouldn't like him; and
(c) he's not a bi-sexual but he's sucked cock (which is not a direct quote but reasonably close).

So there you go.

[alawston.livejournal.com]

a) Painfully obvious, sadly. I was once sitting next to him in Camden for a mutual friend's birthday drinks for about three hours, and didn't get much more than 'All right?'
b) He's never had much to say to me, but I think that's more in his own head. I think pointlessly angry people are kind of fun.
c) Well... I've known plenty of guys who apparently ARE bi-sexual but have never sucked cock, so I guess it's fine that it cuts both ways...

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

I missed the rant. If only someone would email me a copy!

[alawston.livejournal.com]

Please forward that to me if you do get a copy!

[infinitarian.livejournal.com]

Google "lawrence miles" beasthouse "shakespeare code", and read the cached version.

[outsdr.livejournal.com]

YES!!! Don Imus has been fired!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/12/imus.rutgers/index.html

Showing that yes, there IS a difference between free speech and inflammatory misogynistic racial hate slurs.

Time jumping Jehovah

[stevencaldwell.livejournal.com]

It seems that more than a few old aliens have survived to live in New New York. Religion of the Old Gospel Choir variety is alive and well. Wunnerful stuff!

Re: Time jumping Jehovah

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

Bring back the Borad!

Re: Time jumping Jehovah

[stevencaldwell.livejournal.com]

I was thinking more of the Monoids. Monoids with attitude