dreamer_easy: (Genesis)
dreamer_easy ([personal profile] dreamer_easy) wrote2004-11-15 09:30 pm

tehological insight

I am so pleased with the typo in the Subject line that I'm keeping it. Anyway, it suddenly occurred to me that the Crucifixion occurred because God promised not to repeat the Flood. Am I right?

[identity profile] infinitarian.livejournal.com 2004-11-15 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I wouldn't particularly argue with that -- just with the contention that "without the Crucifixion there could be no Resurrection". I think the only necessary precondition for the Resurrection was the Incarnation, and Jesus's subsequent death (under whatever circumstances). The Resurrection is the beginning of the "return to God" which I was mentioning above.

[identity profile] rj-anderson.livejournal.com 2004-11-15 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that's what I meant -- if Christ hadn't died (in some way) then He couldn't have been resurrected.

But I also do think that the prophecies of the Tanakh indicate that crucifixion specifically was the planned method by which Christ would die. "As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up," etc.

And the NT also appears to emphasize that a good deal more (and more important) things happened on the cross than just a man dying in the inevitable way that all men die. "No man takes my life from Me... I lay it down of My own accord."