dreamer_easy: (IT'S A TRAP)
I cannot now remember where I first encountered the idea that two people of equal intelligence, given the same facts, can in complete good faith reach different conclusions. It's a simple truth about the enormously complex process of trying to make sense of an enormously complicated world. I'm not just talking about opinions shaped by experience, training, prejudice, or habit: even scientists, whose basic tools are facts and logic, often disagree, sometimes spectacularly, and it takes a great deal more fact-finding and logical thinking to show which of them was right.

Which is why it's infuriating when a scientists insists on telling people what their religious beliefs are. Quoth Dawkins, re Pat Robertson, re Haiti: "Loathsome as Robertson's views undoubtedly are, he is the Christian who stands squarely in the Christian tradition."

I actually share Dawkins' view that linking catastrophe to human behaviour is a dubious, hazardous theology. We behave messily because we live in a messy universe, and not the other way around. But how the heck we're supposed to get from "the Bible describes Jesus casting out demons" to "Haiti made a pact with the Devil" I have no idea. Presumably the idea is that having accepted one supernatural event, you then accept them all. And you wondered why there has never been any controversy over theological opinions! How is this illogic any different to insisting that accepting evolution must inevitably lead to, for example, eugenics?

"Just read your own Bible," chides Dawkins. The Southern Baptist he disparages uses the Bible as a direct riposte to Robertson: "Is the judgment of God something we can claim to understand in this sense... No... Jesus himself warned his disciples against this kind of presumption." (I assume he's referring to Matthew 7, but my theology's very slender. Help?)

This is what I'm referring to when I say that militant atheists and fundamentalists have, in a sense, the same beliefs. Or, to borrow from Alan Watts, nobody believes in God like an atheist. ;)
dreamer_easy: (NUTTER)
Oh, man. Maybe the Valium last night wasn't such a good idea. I've been scrambleheaded ever since, and I don't know whether it's depression, anxiety, the drugz, or some combination of these.

The local fundamentalists popped a brochure in the post box. "True Christianity is founded on a belief on Jesus Christ, and is not based upon any of our works." Various Bible quotes follow. This was Martin Luther's idea, wasn't it? It's brilliant. It gets rid of all that awkward stuff about having to give other people your money and simplifies religion into a pyramid scheme. [ETA: The thing about Luther was a wee bit seriously uninformed on my part - see the comments. Recommend me a beginner's book on theology!]
dreamer_easy: (GENESIS)
Nodding off while listening to an extremely interesting Podcast on Biblical Hebrew. Earlier was poking around in GB thread about the sex or gender of God, in which various people said God was a bodyless spirit, wouldn't be limited by gender, etc. And yet, God has all these other human characteristics - he's got a face, he breathes, he speaks, he experiences love, anger, jealousy, and so on. Now, in the Podcast they talk about the importance of language in the creation, that "Hebrew letters are the sounding block of creation itself" - creation and language are inseparable. Influenced by Zen, I suppose, I regard the Divine as ungraspable by the rational mind: gods and their personalities and stories are analogies, something humans can deal with, but no more to be confused with the actual Divine than a road sign should be confused with Yass. So my question is, in this theology, is language a property of creation, or a property of God? Do language and the universe come into existence at the same moment? Language is (almost but not quite) the defining characteristic of human beings, so does it result from our being made in God's image? Your answers on a postcard.
dreamer_easy: (we are as gods)
"... traditional polytheism almost requires tension and disorder within the pantheon and the cosmos. Polytheism thus accepts two possible locations of evil, so that the existence of evil is not deeply problematic because nothing is truly perfect... By contrast, when a single god dominates the cosmos in a henotheistic system [as in Aten worship]... the question of theodicy arises in a more acute form."
Baines, John. "Society, Morality and Religious Practice". in Shafer, Byron E. (ed). Religion in Ancient Egypt: Gods, Myths, and Personal Practice. Cornell University Press, Ithaca NY, 1991.
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How can you be happy in heaven if one of your friends goes to hell?
dreamer_easy: (X_X DED)
I've read so much stuff at such a speed over the last two days, trying to get books back to the library before the OS trip, that I think I burned something out. This morning on the bus I couldn't make head nor tail of the fairly straightforward nonfic I'd brought with me. Sometimes this happens when you write too much and you abruptly lose the ability to parse English, but I've never had it happen from reading before.

This possibly led to a dizzying moment of Zen when I realised that God, too, would be marked by emptiness. Oh my head.
dreamer_easy: (Genesis)
OK, lemme see. Under "Word of God" in the Anchor Bible Dictionary we get several pages on the Hebrew dabar, "the word of God", meaning: communications from God via speech but also through dreams, visions, and other routes; the creative power of God's words; and the expression of God's will. (I think the latter two are something like the Greek concept of the logos, though it's not mentioned.)

Bit more in a, erm, in a bit.
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Theologically, is the "word of God" as in the Scriptures identified with the Word of God as in the logos?
dreamer_easy: (Genesis)
One of these JW mags quotes a guy who says that "knowledge of the Old Testament is fading fast among Christians and has virtually vanished in popular culture". So! Test yourself, Christians and others on my flist - without peeking at other comments, see if you can comment with five events from the OT. (If you actually do Bible study, you're disqualified! :-)
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Found some Jehovah's Witness magazines on the train. IS GOD RESPONSIBLE FOR NATURAL DISASTERS? asks one. Alas, it doesn't answer the question, but it does reassure us that the world will end shortly in any case. Rather sweetly, an article on immigrants "who feel caught between two cultures" are reminded of Biblical figures in similar situations, such as Joseph and Timothy. I also found out who the five foolish virgins were (hint: not a pop band).
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Yet another podcast, this time about the personification of evil, in particular, evil spirits:

'...in eastern traditions the ambiguity and ambivalence of these figures is much more accepted. So that if your community were suffering from some type of terrible fever, disease, you would identify the demon of that disease and you would propitiate that demon. And this is why people in the western tradition are so amazed and awed by the religious art of Indonesia and Tibet because it seems to be so frightening and demonic. But this is because spirits of danger become spirits who can get rid of danger.

You don't have that in the western tradition. What happens in Christianity is that spirits of danger become uniformly evil, and they must be exorcised and chased away and bound and sent back to where they came from.'


I don't think that's an east vs west thing - it's a monotheism vs polytheism thing. I immediately thought of the ancient Greeks and the gorgoneions, Gorgon faces, they put on their buildings to ward off the evil eye - using a malign influence against itself, fighting fire with fire. But if you have only one all-powerful, all-good deity, then good can't flow from any other source.
dreamer_easy: (THE FEAR)
Same podcast, different speaker (Jonathan Sacks, the UK's Chief Rabbi):

'If you read the Bible, you will see for instance, towards the end of Deuteronomy where Moses warns the people that bad things will happen if they drift away from their faith and way of life, he says 'These bad things will happen because you didn't serve God with joy, and fullness of heart out of the abundance of all things'. Judaism if you read it carefully in the Bible, is very much about celebrating this life, down here on earth, the earth that God created and declared good. And the Psalm says 'Serve God with joy, come before him in exultation'. So it was really the persecutions of the Middle Ages that transposed Judaism in what I'd call the minor key. But actually deep down, it's a religion of celebration, and the Hassidim understood it, and my goodness me, they know how to do it.'

What a challenge - for a Jew, for anyone! *is floored by it*
dreamer_easy: (Genesis)
I've just been listening to a terrific podcast about The Gospel of Mark while doing the washing up. Among many interesting things (the always-entertaining disciples bring the stupid and spend a lot of time panicking), there are references to the Greek word pneuma, "breath", usually translated as "Holy Spirit". For example:

"... right from the beginning in Mark, pneuma, or what's usually translated as Holy Spirit, sacred pneuma, the charged breath, the wind, the sacred essence, is what breathes through this story."

(It's God's breath which brings Adam to life, of course, and [livejournal.com profile] synaesthete7 has mentioned the idea of the Bible as theopneustos, God-breathed.)

Long-time readers of this LJ will not be surprised that I thought of a Mesopotamian parallel: the word for the spirits that cause illness is similar to the word for "wind", and those spirits get in through apertures in the house, like a wind coming in. (I read about this quite recently, but do you think I can find the reference? I cannot.) I'm not sure, though, that there are Mesopotamian parallels with the idea of breathing life into someone or something.

Is the idea of God's breath as His agent similar to the idea of God's Word (or indeed, Marduk's word, which can create and destroy)? And are these in turn parallel to the Egyptian idea of hike, roughly "magic", the divine power used by the gods?
dreamer_easy: (circe)
Further to my last posting about that notable young man of Middle Eastern appearance: one of the many Christian groups on campus are having a lecture series called "If I were God I would..." . Tomorrow's lecture is titled "If I were God I would end all suffering". (This will of course be an explanation of why God doesn't, in fact, end all suffering.)

Now many concepts are readily translatable from one religion to another, but what this question actually means is, "If I were omnipotent I would..." Looked at one way, my own deities are not omnipotent; looked at another way, the question is meaningless, as my own gods aren't bureaucrats or generals organising the universe from outside. In fact, I agree with Thorkild Jacobsen's analysis in Treasures of Darkness: the idea of the chief god as a ruler whose word is law, with many ministers in the form of lesser gods, developed when human societies themselves became organised in this way.
dreamer_easy: (Genesis)
You may recall a discussion of the doctrine of the Virgin Birth here a little while ago, some of which addressed the debate around the exact words used in the Bible which are translated today as "virgin". I'm reading a book on the Canaanite goddess Anat right now, so I thought I'd throw this into the discussion: Anat is frequently called btlt 'nt. The first word, from the Ugaritic language, is the equivalent of the Hebrew bethulah, one of the controversial words. Since Anat had a consort and a son, it's unlikely that the title means "the Virgin Anat" - more likely "the young woman Anat".

But the book also says that Ishtar was often called "the Virgin Ishtar" - in which case there is no way the word means a woman who hasn't had sexual intercourse! The question this raises in my mind is whether Akkadian texts use the word batultu, the Akkadian equivalent of betulah and btlt, to describe Ishtar.

(The book is The Violent Goddess: Anat in the Ras Shamra texts by Arvid S. Kapelrud.)
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Imagine the excitement, if you can - being the first scholar or scholars to translate the ancient Canaanite text, sometime early last century:

Behold, your enemy, Baal,
Behold, you will kill your enemy,
Behold, you will annihilate your foes.
You will take your eternal kingship,
Your dominion forever and ever.


These lines have just emerged from tablets dug up in the site of the ancient city of Ugarit - and yet, like any educated Westerner, you already know them. You take down a Bible from the shelf, and turn to the familiar Psalms:

Behold, your enemies, Yahweh,
Behold, your enemies have perished,
all evildoers have been scattered.
(Psalm 92)

Your kingdom is an eternal kingdom,
your rule is forever and ever.
(Psalm 145)

The lines aren't identical, in the spooky way that the Babylonian Flood story is almost word for word the same as the Genesis account, but you can't dismiss the similarities. They keep cropping up - the connections between the god of the Bible and the Canaanite chief deity El; Baal's conquest over the sea, his appearance on a mountaintop accompanied by storm and earthquake, the title he shares with the Hebrew god, "Rider on the Clouds".

So do these discoveries shake our scholars' faith? Of course not - why should it? "... the god of Israel may be unique, but the formulae with which Israel expressed her understanding of him were not," comments translator Michael David Coogan, who points to Ezekiel 16:3: "By origin and by birth you are of the land of the Canaanites". (It's Coogan's account in Stories from Ancient Canaan that I'm relying on here.)

The jolt the scholars must have experienced is the same shock of recognition I get when reading the story of the goddess Anat's lethal punishment of the hero Arqhat, who refuses to hand over his magic bow and arrows and even insults her. In the next paragraph, Coogan says exactly what I'm thinking: this is extremely similar to Ishtar's spurned proposal to Gilgamesh. I don't know which story came first, or whether they both arose from the same background, and I don't know much about Anat yet, but my brain still goes "boing"!!! Have I just encountered my own god, in a different form?

What strikes me personally is the astonishing fact that the very words used to praise the Canaanite gods as much as two thousand years ago, are still alive today, preserved in those Psalms. I don't think there's any Mesopotamian equivalent, not even those lines shared between Gilgamesh and Genesis.
dreamer_easy: (Genesis)
I was looking up Martha in the Bible and found Luke 10:38-42. As a spiritual person, I totally get this. (There's a similar Buddhist story, about the herder who's in a panic over his lost sheep - the Buddha quips to his disciples, "Aren't you lucky you don't have any sheep?). As a feminist I'm like WAAGH! If Martha also sits at Jesus' feet, who's going to make his dinner?

ETA: Aha! I can post to LJ if I keep it short!

ETA: Have a look at this very readable essay on Interpretations of Luke 10:38-42.
dreamer_easy: (science)
Reading about embryos and such at the moment for Quiet Game. Some of the questions this stuff provokes is like messing around with the rules in a role-playing game: when two embryos fuse spontaneously fuse to form a single chimeric individual, as occasionally happens, how many souls does the resulting human being have?
dreamer_easy: (Genesis)
Surprisingly, this has never occurred to me before. That pattern in the Hebrew Bible where Israel strays from God and is punished, typically by other nations working as God's agents. Does it lend itself to a horrible reading of recent history?

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