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dreamer_easy ([personal profile] dreamer_easy) wrote2006-12-23 08:22 am
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Troy

Ahem. Having disgraced myself with versification, now my impressions of the movie, which I've started watching. (I tend to watch stuff in chunks rather than all in one go.) Pleasingly, the dialogue is all right. But there is something cruel about the casting:

Here's Brad Pitt as Achilles. He can't act worth a damn.

On comes Orli as Paris. His character is a total bore, but nonetheless, he pwns Pitt.

On comes Eric Bana as Hector and pwns Orli.

On comes Sean Bean as Odysseus and utterly pwns everyone so far.

And then: OMFG it's PETER O'TOOLE AS PRIAM. THE REST OF YOU CAN JUST PACK UP AND GO HOME. HA HA HA HA.

[identity profile] th-esaurus.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Ughhhhhhhhhhhh I hated that film so much.

I hate Brad Pitt, but even Pitt > Orli.

Also am I the only person in the world who doesn't like Peter O'Toole? He creeps me out.

[identity profile] realcasanova.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Why yes my dear. AH AHA AHAHAHAHAH

[identity profile] th-esaurus.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
GET AWAY FROM ME PETER O'TOOLE

[identity profile] realcasanova.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think I don't know when a woman is mine? *gropes you telekinetically with his alien blue eyes*

[identity profile] th-esaurus.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[identity profile] neotoma.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The cast of that movie is so very odd. You've got some real lightweights against some very accomplished actors, and the script is just 'wtf?' with the liberties.

Also, llamas?!

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
it's very dangerous to mix Hollywood and British actors in the same movie. This is especially dangerous if they're playing the baddie, as in RH:POT or that ghastly Musketeers, as they will MAKE OFF WITH THE FUCKING FILM.

[identity profile] neotoma.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
How many Hollywood actors were in TROY? Besides Brad Pitt, the ones I can think of (even on the Greek side) were British actors.

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, I was speaking of the general phenomenonononononon. Troy's prob is that the main character is at the bottom of the actin' totem pole.

[identity profile] neotoma.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, that was one of Troy's problems.

Gutting the actual details (hello, where are the Gods?! You know, the ones who caused the war by way of insulting the Goddess of Discord?) was the other one.

I'm kind of wishing they had done the Odyssey, because Sean Bean would have pwned that...

[identity profile] endis-ni.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Thetis shows up briefly, generally as a lady of a certain age who stands around in rockpools all day. Gah.

My problem with Troy is really that Paris really shouldn't be prettier than Helen. Really.

[identity profile] murasaki-1966.livejournal.com 2006-12-23 10:34 am (UTC)(link)
For a great modern retelling of the Iliad, read Christopher Logue's verse version "War Music" (four books so far "the Husbands" "the Kings" "war Music" and "Permanent all day red"

[identity profile] qthewetsprocket.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
re: brad pitt's acting - sadly, it's not too hard to pwn him in a film. an eight-year-old acted circles around him in interview with the vampire, after all. and then, when i'd just about decided he could act, what with kalifornia and twelve monkeys, his contract with satan runs out and he goes back to being just another pretty face (allegedly) that reads the lines. sad, really.

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Erratum. For "pretty face", read "mailbox head".

[identity profile] ashamel.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Perhaps uniquely, Kyla and I really enjoyed Troy. I like the... messiness of it, you might say. No clear good guys or bad guys, people try to redeem themselves and fail, the gods may or may not be taking an interest. It also looks great, has excellent fight scenes and, yes, I enjoy the actors including Pitt.

(I also enjoyed Alexander as well, so am apparently insane.)

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm taking the piss out of the cast, but it's gorgeous and makes me want to write a novel set in Babylon so much.

I listened to Derek Jacobi reading the Iliad in recent years, which pwns ALL.

[identity profile] lordalius.livejournal.com 2006-12-23 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
makes me want to write a novel set in Babylon

What, as opposed to one walking to it?
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[personal profile] hnpcc 2006-12-22 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I enjoyed it too, although personally I thought Eric Bana was the pick. I didn't mind Brad Pitt - his kind of vacant acting came across just right for a demi-god who really didn't need to extend himself to get anywhere.

[identity profile] ashamel.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly. I wouldn't say Brad was the best of the actors, but he fit the role. Eric was great (and their last fight superb).

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2006-12-23 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
He does convey a certain vacuity. But if anyone else says something about people remembering all this in a thousand years' time, I shall spew.

My favourite bit so far is Hector headbutting Patroclus. That whole fight is choice, especially when Hector sticks his spear through Patroclus, who irritatedly breaks off the shaft and hits Hector over the head with it.
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[identity profile] purrdence.livejournal.com 2006-12-22 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I saw Troy when it came out. I still want the two hours of my life back.

I was very dissapointed they didn't brick up the vestal virgin.

[identity profile] drhoz.livejournal.com 2006-12-23 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
at least they actually explained WHY they rolledthe horse into town. I'ld never made the Poseidon-horses-sea = holy offering thing before

[identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com 2006-12-23 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
In this movie, the Trojan Horse should be a virus that mucks up their army-generating software.

[identity profile] drhoz.livejournal.com 2006-12-24 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
heh