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[dreamer_easy]

US women please note: you cannot be trusted to make your own medical decisions, even if your health is at stake.

It's for your own good.

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[ionlylurkhere.livejournal.com]

From that NYT article: "He said that pregnant women or their doctors could assert an individual need for a health exception by going to court to challenge the law as it applied to them."

Yes, of course, because obviously these situations can just be placed on hold while the lawyers argue it out. Why did no one tell me uteruses come with pause buttons?

[neadods.livejournal.com]

pregnant women or their doctors could assert an individual need for a health exception by going to court to challenge the law as it applied to them

Because no example where the fetus has already died in utero is like any other example where the fetus has died in utero, so we're gonna make every woman wait lots of extra time and pay lots of extra money in to protect the sanctity of a life THAT'S ALREADY OVER.

[vindaloo-vixen.livejournal.com]

'Why did no one tell me uteruses come with pause buttons?'
Ooh, that would be handy in all sorts of ways...

[lordshiva.livejournal.com]

As a US woman, I can assure you I'm very much aware of this already, for several months now, with petitions and letters to congressmen and everything.

[qthewetsprocket.livejournal.com]

a lot of us saw this coming back when alito got nominated. (happy now, miss o'connor?? i told you you shouldn't have retired!) ah well. give it time, the pendulum will swing back. i hope.

and as much as i dislike the killing of any living thing, the part that really worries me here is the return to the horrifying medeival concept of women as bothersomely sentient baby-factories only fit to churn out male heirs. (although, given the administration's attitude towards mother earth, i suppose their behavior towards actual human bipedal mothers isn't all that surprising.)

*sigh*

[fred-god-of.livejournal.com]

This was the main discussion of my first period politics class, which is made up of the some of the more open minded people in a heavily right wing conservative christian town and amazingly enough everyone including the boys said that this was a very stupid idea. Especially since about half of us know someone who hadn't figured out they were pregnant until after two months. That doesn't leave much time to actually figure out what you're doing

Also, in south carolina a woman is required to watch an ultrasound of her stomach before she can get an abortion. http://www.thestate.com/154/story/40020.html

But the thing that pisses me off the most is that this isn't going to stop abortions because noting is going to stop abortions. Girls are just going to have to go back to back rooms, mexico, coat hangers and throwing themselves down stairs. Oh and smoking while pregnant to try and kill the baby, a student and my teacher both have vision problems because of their mothers smoking while pregnant, though I don't think it was supposed to be a termination tactic in either case.
GAH!

[(Anonymous)]

I have heard of women in the US before Roe v. Wade using heavy drinking as a termination tactic. Drinking a whole bottle of whiskey was reputed (somewhat inaccurately) to induce a miscarriage.

I also spent a few years in the Philippines, where abortion is completely illegal except in the "killing the fetus is the secondary consequence of saving the woman" circumstance. Every woman over the age of twenty-five knows a number of things they can take that are supposed to induce abortion, although all are of dubious efficacy (most of them work sometimes) and most of them are dangerous to the woman (there's a lot that involve overdosing on herbal purgatives, like mahogany seeds or papaya seeds, and hoping the ensuing cramps will induce a miscarriage). And most of the relatively safe ones (like eating large quantities of pineapple) only have a chance of working if the woman starts within a few days of conception.

Also, the hilots who performed abortions were widely known to the women over twenty-five, and most of them were relatively safe (more dangerous than proper medical care, but usually safer than just dosing yourself with something). The ones who didn't know any of this were the teenage girls and young women, who were also likely to have substantial sexual pressure, and inaccurate knowledge of birth control. Second strangest rumor I heard; teenagers who actually believed that taking antibiotics after sex would prevent pregnancy. Strangest; the ones who thought toothpaste doubled as contraceptive gel. So the younger women, who'd be less likely to know about contraception, more likely to risk their health in pregnancy, and more likely to have to drop out of school and be pressured into marriage if they got pregnant, were the ones who couldn't get abortions. Meanwhile the women from rich families would just fly to Hong Kong. And the barely-pubescent rape victims were punching themselves in the stomach and throwing themselves into the bathroom wall in the hopes of inducing a miscarrage that they could blame on "slipping and falling".

Lovely system. Bet there's going to be some interesting new accidents and injuries in American hospitals.