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[dreamer_easy]

Prop. 8 Ban On Same-Sex Marriage Maintains Lead

Gods damn it, California, if you do pass Prop 8, I swear I'll boycott your bigoted ass. fwiw.

ETA: Proposition K, which would have protected sex workers from police abuse and violence, has been defeated. That's it, CA, I'm not buying as much as a cup of coffee as we pass thru SFO this year. (I don't buy the argument that arresting sex workers is a necessary part of fighting sex slavery. If you're arresting the slaves, you're arresting the wrong people.)

ETA: At least, as I type this, Proposition 4 (which would mandate parental notification for minors' abortions) is trailing.

ETA yet more: anti-abortion referenda in Colorado and South Dakota have also failed, but anti-gay initiatives have succeeded in Arizona, Florida, and Arkansas. Gods know why US states waste so much time and money passing laws which are only going to be found unconstitutional in the end.

Comments

[ravenevermore.livejournal.com]

Against the backdrop of all the awesome that has occurred in the past 24hrs, this floors me. Absolutely floors me. I mean, San Francisco ffs.

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

Apparently the Bay Area is the one holdout, bless 'em.

[nevryn.livejournal.com]

Voting map, plus real-time updates: (warning, may depress)

http://vote.sos.ca.gov/Returns/props/map190000000008.htm

[ravenevermore.livejournal.com]

And good on them. The Bay Area is one of the few places in America I feel I could settle. I shall Boycott California. Apart from The Bay Area. Because really I just can't bring myself to hate San Francisco.

[nevryn.livejournal.com]

Proposition 2 (http://www.yesonprop2.com/) looks like it'll get up! (outlawing a bunch of less humane farming practices. Like veal boxes)

[strangedave.livejournal.com]

I too, am depressed. A bit of a reality check there - "hey world, we may have elected a sane black man as president in the hopes he will pull us out of an economic tailspin, but we are still largely uptight homophobic jerks"

I was really hoping prop K would pass -- I have at least one friend who would be potentially effected by it, who has made it clear to me in the pass that it is clearly needed.

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

Prostitution is one of those topics (like transgenderism) over which feminists argue; but no ideology or long-term goal is more important than the safety and health of living, breathing sex workers, female and male.

[murasaki-1966.livejournal.com]

Hear, hear.

[tide-and-time.livejournal.com]

I was speaking with friends in San Diego and they only had 27% of that vote tabulated at the time of our conversation, but San Diego was fully counted and it was 44 to 56 in favor of those who want to pass Prop 8. *sigh*

We won't know the full answers until sometime this morning (California time rather than Toronto/New York time).

THIS JUST IN :)

[tide-and-time.livejournal.com]

(CNN) -- A ballot initiative to ban gay marriage in California appears headed for a narrow defeat, exit polls showed.
Voters in California, Arizona and Florida weigh in on constitutional bans on same-sex marriage.

Voters in California, Arizona and Florida weigh in on constitutional bans on same-sex marriage.

Proposition Eight, which would eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California, was losing -- 53 percent to 47 percent, according to the polling. If it were to pass, it would overrule a state Supreme Court ruling in May legalizing same-sex unions.

However, similar measures succeeded in Arizona and Florida, where voters approved constitutional amendments recognizing marriage as a union between one man and one woman, CNN projected.

Re: THIS JUST IN :)

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

Curses! :(

[redrose999.livejournal.com]

Proposition 8 failed in CA thankfully.

I'm pretty scared about Florda, Colorado and South Dakota. I have a feeling the nation will be split on this issue too.

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

Fraid not :(

[redrose999.livejournal.com]

Oh man that makes me pissed big time. This entire defense of the family BS pisses me off. Gay and Lesbian couples don't effect het families. But HET Families effect and destroy GAY and Lesbian ones. AMAZING don't see gays banning het marriage!

The sad thing is, people vote against it because they believe that gay couple next door will wreck their families. When truth is, if they got their way, my cousin, her partner and daughter would loose everything THEY had.

Why is my country filled with such asses?

[murasaki-1966.livejournal.com]

Move here. We haven't got gay marriage yeat, but we are about to put gay defacto couples on the same footing as het ones.

Although, someone may have to shot Senator Fielding first.

[outsdr.livejournal.com]

oing to be found unconstitutional in the end.

*snicker*

I'm such a 12-year old.

[matthewwolff.livejournal.com]

Gods know why US states waste so much time and money passing laws which are only going to be found unconstitutional in the end.

It's so true. And it will be one of those things people will be embarrassed about when they tell their kids, 50 years from now.....

eg

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

Back in September: Judge rules Fla. adoption ban unconstitutional

[ghanistarkiller.livejournal.com]

Even being told that the same sex marriage and partnership amendments would affect hetero common law marriages and partnerships (which are now not legally acknowledged) couldn't sway voters down here. *Hangs head* There was so much optimism, and I'm still hanging tight to that, after the announcement of Obama as president that it was like a sucker punch to the face. I did what I could, as did every member of my family, and will continue to fight. Hopefully Obama's appointment will begin to change attitudes. A girl can hope.

I'm blue even though I'm in a blue state.

[ravenskyewalker.livejournal.com]

Gods damn it, California, if you do pass Prop 8, I swear I'll boycott your bigoted ass. fwiw.

Ah, hell. Sweet God (Goddess, gods -- let's be eclectic), I live here and want to boycott it!

I'm still trying to think through the cognitive dissonance of our electing a man who was bashed and smeared as being an Arab-named, radical-leftist, secret Muslim terrorist (and possibly the Antichrist!), because we apparently were able to see past that hatred, but we had to slap down gay partnerships, because we just can't have those uppity gays thinking that they have the right to be each other's next-of-kin in medical emergencies, etc.

*stabs Prop 8 just to watch it die*

Proposition K, which would have protected sex workers from police absue and violence, has been defeated.

*sigh* San Frackedupcisco. While I don't really believe in legalizing prostitution, hello, it's the world's oldest profession, it's not going to go away, and keeping the sex workers safe(r) would've made sense. *headdesk*

As far as Prop 4 goes, I'm glad if it lost. It was supposedly aimed at saving girls from sexual predators (who impregnated them, then want them to abort), but as has been pointed out, what about the predators who are the fathers and brothers and uncles, etc.? As a coworker said, "Oh, yes, I'd really want to notify my father if he'd raped and impregnated me."

[kateorman.livejournal.com]

It's very angering to think that, for the sake of making a small attack on abortion rights, the proponents of Prop 4 would have endangered especially vulnerable young women. If sexual predators are the issue, then cook up a proposition which targets them.