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If you can't legally stop women from having abortions, all you can do is harass and intimidate them. Oklahoma's new law is an example. It requires physicians to collect extensive personal details from women seeking abortions - details which will be posted on the Web, making it possible for individual women to be identified. The law has been put on hold by a judge and is being challenged by the Center for Reproductive Rights.

The Senator behind the law says the info is needed to help prevent unwanted pregnancies. I can save him the quarter mill: quit with the useless abstinence-only education, and make sex education mandatory in Oklahoma schools, including education about contraception.

Date: 2009-12-21 08:41 am (UTC)
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The Senator behind the law says the info is needed to help prevent unwanted pregnancies.

Or to punish those harlots who got pregnant while unmarried. I'd be guessing the latter myself.

Naturally of course they're not going to publish the father's details...

Date: 2009-12-21 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
Sharp point. Here's the Bill. No personal data is collected on the father, though some of the questions touch on him, such as when the woman must state why she is having the abortion, and whether her pregnancy is the result of rape or incest.

Date: 2009-12-21 10:05 pm (UTC)
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when the woman must state why she is having the abortion

I take it the option "none of your fucking business" isn't given?

Date: 2009-12-21 10:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
You are correct in that assumption.

Date: 2009-12-21 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrose999.livejournal.com
You're actually close to the truth, some Arkansas Senator tried to make it illegal for unwed mothers and gays to teach kids (teaches wrong moral values), and (card) Gays (lets give them that star folks!). I'm afraid the Right Wing is really starting to show it's true colors.

Date: 2009-12-21 02:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] redrose999.livejournal.com
I've noticed this terrifying trend in the us. The GOP moderates have been replaced with radicals.Right now they are working on demonizing the gays. They've also been targeting woman's rights. One GOP politician has been quoted with "women shouldn't be allowed to vote". It's an underlying current in right wing politics that is slowly taking hold.

They'd love for this country to be uneducated, controlled in our homes, and poor. And women of course, barefoot and pregnant.

Date: 2009-12-21 10:06 pm (UTC)
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One GOP politician has been quoted with "women shouldn't be allowed to vote".

Man if there were ever a motivating argument to make sure women didn't vote - for him. Seriously, how do these people stay in power? Who the hell votes for them in the first place?

Date: 2009-12-21 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alryssa.livejournal.com
It's not all they do. Radical groups bomb clinics and advocate the assassination of abortion doctors - to the point where there's only one late-term abortion surgeon left operating in the entire country.

If this country were really serious about combating terrorism, they'd focus on all kinds terrorism, and not just the kind that involves religious and racial profiling.

Date: 2009-12-21 10:03 pm (UTC)
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What really gets me about the abortion "debate" is the way that certain people fan the flames, and then throw up their hands in mock horror when a doctor is killed and say "oh but we didn't mean that."

Yes they fucking did. I really wish some people could be charged with incitement.

If this country were really serious about combating terrorism, they'd focus on all kinds terrorism, and not just the kind that involves religious and racial profiling.

Well non-Christian religious profiling at least. And yes, in complete agreement with you.

Date: 2009-12-21 11:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alryssa.livejournal.com
What really gets me about the abortion "debate" is the way that certain people fan the flames, and then throw up their hands in mock horror when a doctor is killed and say "oh but we didn't mean that."

Yes. There are a lot of loathesome individuals like this out there right now who take far too much pleasure in stoking the fires with their influential political pokers but refuse to take responsibility for the horrendous actions that ensue.

As an update on Kate's original story, I've just heard that the injunction to stop the information from being listed has been extended. Not an end, but certainly a welcome reprieve for the time being.

Date: 2009-12-22 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
Yah. Some make women scared that their personal lives will be made public. Some make women scared that they'll be maimed or killed. The scale may be different, but the principle is the same: harass and intimidate.

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