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I have the rampaging thoughts tonight. Parking some of them here, just to get them out of my system.

1. Bullying is not a useful way of opposing racism, sexism, and other bigotry. In particular, social aggression between girls and women - malicious gossip, ridicule, exclusion - is profoundly anti-woman, a byproduct of patriarchy. It should not be confused with, nor is it justified by, honest anger, frustration, assertiveness, disagreement: things which girls and women are taught to suppress, but which are the real tools for dismantling oppression. Bullying will slow and confuse our efforts until online progressives reject it.

2. Why am I not an atheist? I'm a naturalist and a rationalist, so why am I up to my elbows in gods? Is this something to do with how the human brain makes sense of the world through narrative?

3. Dear Mr Dawkins et al, regardless of how much praying I and others may do during takeoff, the Bernoulli Effect is not magic. Please make a note of this.

4. The Ten Commandment Boogie helpfully reminds us that the Bible is "full of incredible tools". Surely you cannot be down-with-the-kids while simultaneously pastiching "Kokomo".

Date: 2010-01-21 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antikythera.livejournal.com
Incredible tools? I always thought Aaron was a bit of a tool. Dude, a golden calf? Really?

Oh, and Balaam. He was a tool too. That poor donkey.

Date: 2010-01-21 03:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antikythera.livejournal.com
It should not be confused with, nor is it justified by

Oh, and this, yes. When I try to criticize it I'm told that anger should not be suppressed and that people who are angry shouldn't soften their blows. I agree with that, but I think bullying tactics are something separate from genuine anger and start to get more into the territory of vengeance or malice -- anger is for making someone realize that what they did was wrong, but bullying is for hurting them as much as you possibly can in order to punish them for it.

Date: 2010-01-21 10:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
Sometimes I can't help of thinking of Monty Python. "We should be struggling together!" "We are!" :D

Date: 2010-01-21 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wirrrn.livejournal.com

and women - malicious gossip, ridicule, exclusion - is profoundly anti-woman, a byproduct of patriarchy

-Remember that not all us guys are like that though...

Date: 2010-01-21 09:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antikythera.livejournal.com
Individual guys don't have to be like that. Women are encouraged to compete with each other rather than help each other, to criticize rather than appreciate. Some theories say that keeping women neurotically focused on competition and beauty is what keeps them from thinking about and accomplishing more important things, and is to men's advantage.

Date: 2010-01-21 10:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
:x :)
Edited Date: 2010-01-21 10:09 pm (UTC)

Date: 2010-01-21 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] murasaki-1966.livejournal.com
2. Why am I not an atheist? I'm a naturalist and a rationalist, so why am I up to my elbows in gods? Is this something to do with how the human brain makes sense of the world through narrative?

I've always believed this, even though I am an atheist.

Date: 2010-01-21 09:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antikythera.livejournal.com
Narrative, or just personification. It's like pareidolia but in a more abstract way. Rather than seeing a face in everything, you see intent and personality in everything. We are, after all, geared to interpret the actions and body language of others in order to appraise their intent or emotion (at least, the neurotypical among us do that).

Date: 2010-01-21 10:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
When all you have is a ventral fusiform cortex, everything looks like a face! :D

Date: 2010-01-22 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbristow.livejournal.com
[GIGGLES AT APPROPRIATE ICON]

Date: 2010-01-22 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbristow.livejournal.com
"We are, after all, geared to interpret the actions and body language of others in order to appraise their intent or emotion (at least, the neurotypical among us do that)."

Which raises the question, are the non-neurotypical (in that particular way) more or less (or equally) inclined than the norm to see God/god/gods/godesses/goddy-things-of-other-or-indeterminate-gender at work in the world...?

Anyone found any research on that? [STARTS GOOGLING]

Date: 2010-01-23 09:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
That is an extremely interesting question! Especially what with this Theory of Mind thing and all. I'll keep an eye out for the answers.

Date: 2010-03-25 06:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lillibet.livejournal.com
Interesting article (http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=125137071&ft=1&f=1001) on NPR today about one school's approach to creating an anti-bullying culture. I found the Circle of Bullying a nice tool.

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