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An overdue thanks for the numerous responses to my biology questions*. I am continuing to investigate the question of the origin of eukaryote tissues. I feel like a doof for not recalling the obvious fact that there are photosynthetic pigments other than chlorophyll. My question should properly have been why green was the most successful colour.

My remarks on the shape of the cosmos have garnered even more comments, leaving me with a fresh question: can the cosmos be described as a three-dimensional manifold embedded in four-space?** Isn't it good we have me around to worry about this sort of thing? I would much rather be pondering this than the source of my next meal, etc.
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* I heard that, you perverts.

** Like the chlorophyll, I ought to know the answer to this, but have forgotten it. I have the vague impression we're living on the three-dimensional surface of a hypersphere.

Date: 2004-11-19 03:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kelemvor.livejournal.com
Green is the most successful photosynthetic colour because it absorbs photons with the right energy for powering biological reactions.
(Always wondered if a botany degree would be useful for anything...)

Date: 2004-11-19 03:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
That must be a bit awkward for photosynthetic organisms which don't use chlorophyll! :-)

Date: 2004-11-19 05:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-ladylark.livejournal.com
There's an interesting article in this week's New Scientist (which dropped through my letterbox this morning) about microorganisms such as bacteria acting in unison and communicating with eachother to give complex behaviours such as only doing something when in a large group, or even committing mass suicide!

I'm not sure if the feature articles show up in the online version, but it's worth a look. I thought of you when reading it :)

Date: 2004-11-19 03:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
I got a subscription for my birthday. *unalloyed glee*

Date: 2004-11-19 09:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinbow.livejournal.com
can the cosmos be described as a three-dimensional manifold embedded in four-space?

Errm, yes, sort of. Probably the most useful model for most day-to-day purposes is the one you use, about the three-d surface of a hypersphere, usually called "spherical space." It would be finite, but unbounded -- no edge. This model, though, does assume a couple of things that aren't properly known, eg:

-how many dimensions our universe has (still an open question when I actually understood this,
which is going on ten years ago.)

-whether the universe is Euclidean ("flat") on a large scale. That changes the sphere part -- we might
also have a similar ellipitcal or cylindrical space (with the two ends of the straight cylinder joined).

-whether the universe is simply connected (like a ball) or multiply connected (like a doughnut).

The Wiki article on this is pretty good: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_of_the_universe

Date: 2004-11-19 09:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] erinbow.livejournal.com
(Now, if only I knew where my next meal was coming from....)

Date: 2004-11-19 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
I love Wikipedia's term "folk physics" (I know the same phenomenon as "armchair physics" :-).

Date: 2004-11-19 03:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gooofy.livejournal.com
"I have the vague impression we're living on the three-dimensional surface of a hypersphere."

omg I certainly hope so.

Date: 2004-11-22 04:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kateorman.livejournal.com
I myself am living on throat lozenges.

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