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Jul. 31st, 2009 07:17 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
SPOILERS: Torchwood - Children of Earth
RTD interview at After Elton
I adore this, because the interview asks so directly about all the stuff that's concerned fandom - the loss of a gay character, the unfulfilled potential of Jack and Ianto's relationship, Jack's lack of a real plan when confronting the 456 - and RTD answers in detail. Interviews usually just give us a handful of quotes without a proper context; this offers far more insight.
The usual hate and ignorance in the comments, though. Frankly, by this point, RTD has made it abundantly clear that the only fans he's knocking are the small number who've been "vicious" and "need to learn a lesson". At SDCC he called the hugely successful charity efforts, such as the Children in Need campaign, "brilliant". Those furious fans insist the amount of money raised represents a widespread demand for Ianto's resurrection. But does it? The Just Giving page describes itself as "in memory of" and "mourning" Ianto, and mentions the "hope" he will return. It's not a petition, it doesn't protest or demand anything. Some of the donors have left comments pleading for Ianto's return; others just celebrate the character.
There's not just wishful thinking here: there's a dishonest effort to exaggerate how much support there is in fandom for Ianto's return FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE. Calling RTD a liar because he's only aware of nine packets of coffee reaching BBC Wales - because you personally sent fifty packets to make yourselves look like fifty people? Hold it, girls... contradiction city... :)

RTD interview at After Elton
I adore this, because the interview asks so directly about all the stuff that's concerned fandom - the loss of a gay character, the unfulfilled potential of Jack and Ianto's relationship, Jack's lack of a real plan when confronting the 456 - and RTD answers in detail. Interviews usually just give us a handful of quotes without a proper context; this offers far more insight.
The usual hate and ignorance in the comments, though. Frankly, by this point, RTD has made it abundantly clear that the only fans he's knocking are the small number who've been "vicious" and "need to learn a lesson". At SDCC he called the hugely successful charity efforts, such as the Children in Need campaign, "brilliant". Those furious fans insist the amount of money raised represents a widespread demand for Ianto's resurrection. But does it? The Just Giving page describes itself as "in memory of" and "mourning" Ianto, and mentions the "hope" he will return. It's not a petition, it doesn't protest or demand anything. Some of the donors have left comments pleading for Ianto's return; others just celebrate the character.
There's not just wishful thinking here: there's a dishonest effort to exaggerate how much support there is in fandom for Ianto's return FROM BEYOND THE GRAVE. Calling RTD a liar because he's only aware of nine packets of coffee reaching BBC Wales - because you personally sent fifty packets to make yourselves look like fifty people? Hold it, girls... contradiction city... :)

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Date: 2009-07-31 02:40 pm (UTC)I have to admit I was one of those traumatized by Ianto's death. If I ever watch Torchwood again I know not to get emotionally invested in any new characters ever again. If they have new characters, that is. But at the end of the day it's just a TV show.
What I really wanted to say was that I, too, am irritated by the constant "Bring Back Ianto" petitions people are trying to push other people into signing. It's over, people. RTD is not bringing Ianto back. Time to move on.
I almost hope none of those viewers DO start watching Supernatural. I personally love the show, but if they do watch, they will hopefully stay out of comm discussions. There is too much wank there already.
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Date: 2009-07-31 04:11 pm (UTC)The point of good drama is that it makes you get invested in the characters. Making you feel the pain of loss is kind of the point of the exercise. If you're so "traumatized" by a fictional death that they go all crazy, then perhaps they should avoid all fiction.
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Date: 2009-08-16 02:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2009-08-01 12:27 am (UTC)Hee hee hee hee hee! :D